Countering Uncrewed Aerial Systems: A Conversation with General Sean Gainey is a discussion hosted by Tom Karako of the Center for Strategic and International Studies(CSIS). The conversation coincided with releasing a new CSIS report, Countering Small Uncrewed Aerial Systems: Air Defense by and for the Joint Force.

The report’s lead author, Shaan Shaikh, began the event with an overview of the report’s findings and recommendations. The conversation explored the JCO’s continuous initiatives to establish the institutional framework for the C-sUAS mission across various services, conclusions presented in the CSIS report, and potential courses of action for the future.

Date- November 14, 2023


Tom Karako-Senior Fellow, International Security Program and Director, Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies


Major General Sean Gainey (USA)- Director, Counter-Unmanned Aircraft Systems Office (JCO)/Director of Fires, Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff, G-3/5/7, United States Army, Washington, DC

Sergeant Major Demetrius Johnson (USA)- Senior Enlisted Advisor to the JCO.

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Post Image- Marines assigned to Marine Medium Tiltrotor Squadron 165 (Reinforced), 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, walk an FIM-92 Stinger man-portable air-defense system to a firing point aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Boxer, while supporting a counter unmanned aerial system exercise in the Pacific Ocean, Nov. 4, 2023. (Image Credit: Marine Corps Cp. Amelia Kang)